Online Outlander Fan Wars – Why?

(First posted at outlandercast in March 2019)
Recent online Outlander fandom fighting has gotten me thinking – a lot – about being a fan. My Outlander experience is the first time I have ever been a fan and things often happen that I have never experienced before. It’s all part of the adventure for me.

So, I’ve been considering. What does it mean to be part of a fandom? What are the personal costs and stresses of being so involved? And why, oh why do fans — and in particular Outlander fans — turn on each other at times?

So, when you want to know something, go to Wikipedia, right? Here’s how a fandom is described:

A fandom is a subculture composed of fans, characterised by a feeling of empathy and camaraderie with others, who share a common interest. Fans are typically interested in even minor details of the object(s) of their fandom and spend a significant portion of their time and energy involved in their interest, often as part of a social network.

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Many Outlander fans join together in other networks, like this gathering of My Peak Challenge participants at the Highlanders 2 Outlander convention in August 2017. (pictures by Anne Lehmann)

The recent online incident, “Tuna Gate,” got me wondering where the empathy and camaraderie of at least some sectors of the Outlanderfandom have gone? Why, and at what point does it break down? Why are online fan interactions so much more likely to be negative than face-to-face meetings? How is it that we may insult and demean each other and presumably think it‘s OK to do so?

I think there are many issues at play, primarily:

  • the level of emotion and ownership people feel about all things Outlander
  • the idolisation of people associated with the Outlander books and the show
  • and, the “safety” that the anonymity of the internet provides.

Like you, I get pretty emotional about the Outlander story. The books, and the show, speak to me in a most mysterious way that I have never felt before. I’ve given up wondering why, and I know many fans feel the same. We are Obsessenachs proud and true. And as a recent Outlander immigrant — I started my journey in 2015 — I can’t even imagine the strength of that feeling for people who have loved these stories since the books first arrived in the 1990s.

outlander fandom, fans waiting for outlander filming to start
Fans wait together patiently for long periods in all weathers. Above, a very warm day (most un-Scottish!) at Cumbernauld Glen, and below a very cold and rainy night in Polmont when they were shooting the graveyard scene in Episode 401. People laugh and chat and share their own stories.

outlander fandom, fans waiting for outlander filming to start for season 4

Lately, the online Outlander fandom skirmishes seem to have moved up a notch: notably with Terry Dresbach over costume reveals, Matt Roberts who felt the need to close down his Twitter account (we can only presume that negativity was getting him down) and finally the recent ‘Tuna Gate’. I want to use this example and compare real life fan relationships with online fan relationships.

outlander fandom, outlander fans waiting for season 3 filming
Intrepid, happy fans in Edinburgh  for the filming of Outlander Season 3 scenes had fun together despite the conditions.

For any fans who were temporarily living under a rock and missed it,  Sam Heughan was on holidays in Hawaii, where he went on a fishing boat and was spotted in the background when some pretty ugly events took place with a big fish and a baseball bat and some people laughing and cheering during the proceedings. I’m just mentioning it again as an example, not to get into a stoush about the pros and cons of killing fish in that manner, but to examine what happened in the fandom in the ensuing days.

People separated into three camps — those who were aghast at the events and felt that Mr. Heughan was on some level culpable; the fact-checking group who sought to give information on fish-killing methods; and those who felt the need to defend Sam Heughan to the hilt. The first group put up some pretty emotional, inflammatory and derogatory comments mainly directed at Mr. Heughan and his associates, while the latter group became very vocal, defensive and at times abusive to the first group.

I saw comments labeling people who objected to the incident as “crazies.“ “nuts.“ “maniacs,“ “halfwits,“ “shameless“and “over-the-top vegetarians“ seeking world domination! I have to mention here that as a mental health professional, I am very sensitive and cringe when people use terms like “crazies,“ “maniacs“ and “nuts“ as insults. This is so demeaning to people who live with a mental illness and struggle to get past these unfortunate labels.

They were even labelled as trolls in some places. As an FYI, the urban dictionary defines trolls as A person whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet over extremely trivial issues.

Of course, we might all have different notions of trivial, but I don’t think that the people who found that video abhorrent could be labeled as trolls. They mostly seemed to be people who had a different perspective on it from the other group. And many expressed that perspective emotionally and forcefully. We all have different tolerances when it comes to the treatment of animals.

There was such a stramash that Sam Heughan made a statement to the effect that he was having a cultural experience with good people. Many were not convinced by this (presumably because of the amount of frivolity going on) and others were appalled that he had felt the need to explain himself. The leave-him-alone group were then labeled sycophants by the first group. So much anger was expressed, and tawdry “discussion” took place in Facebook groups, with people agreeing that these “trolls” were not true fans, I’m guessing because in their eyes Sam Heughan can do no wrong. The ruckus continued.

I have had a lot of personal interaction with Outlander fans, at conventions, film shoots, award night red carpets and during my travels. Every one of these occasions has been filled with the above-mentioned camaraderie and empathy of a shared passion and enjoyment of experiences. Standing for hours in long queues or in cold and rainy Scottish weather, spirits are high and differences (politics, religion, personal values and prejudices — the things that often divide us) are absent, while people share the Outlanderexperience together.

Fans waited together for hours before the Scottish BAFTA awards in Glasgow (November 2017) and it was REALLY cold! And they were rewarded with meeting Sam Heughan and Caitriona Balfe as they mixed with fans on the red carpet.

 

outlander fandom, Fans happily hanging out together ahead of their 'Meet and Greet' session at the Highlanders 2 convention in Blackpool, England in August 2017.
Fans happily hanging out together ahead of their ‘Meet and Greet’ session at the Highlanders 2 convention in Blackpool, England in August 2017.
oulander fandom, The queue was REALLY long waiting to get an autograph from Caitriona Balfe at Highlanders 2,
The queue was REALLY long waiting to get an autograph from Steven Cree at Highlanders 2, but all was calm, and people took pleasure in meeting others from different countries.

In real life, people don’t stand around talking about Caitriona Balfe’s politics or speculating on Sam Heughan’s girlfriend. They rise above the pettiness and just enjoy the fun of it. Why is it not so when it comes to online interactions? Why do we tend to get so hyped up, sometimes saying some pretty horrible things to each other?

It appears that some fans feel such a sense of ownership of our ‘fandom object’ (in this case, Sam Heughan) that our reason may be clouded. Emotion takes over and it’s like squabbling over a prized possession. In real life, and face-to-face, we do not (usually!) behave like this or speak like this to each other. We have filters. We have constraints. We have more consideration and respect for a person who is standing right in front of us. We know that we are all complex beings negotiating the world as best we can through our own experiences, understandings and concerns. We all have a back-story that informs the way we make sense of the world.

outlander fandom, outlander fans waiting for cast in Glasglow
After waiting many hours in the cold and rain in Glasgow, fans were rewarded with some interaction with their favourite stars. And even though conditions were grim, there was kind of a party atmosphere with people mixing and getting to know each other.

outlander fandom, sam heughan giving autographs to fans

outlander fandom, sam heughan and caitriona balfe greeting fans

We can all reflect on and examine our own feelings and actions here. Are we contributing to the online community in a positive way? That doesn’t mean agreeing with anything and everything, but it’s the written equivalent to counting to ten if we are angry and counting to a hundred if we are really angry. Is it better for us to practice tolerance, and understand that although we have a central core focus, we are all probably very different in many ways? A key skill in dealing with personal differences is to discuss the issue, not attack the person.

outlander fandom, fans waiting in Inverness for Richard Rankin
Who wouldn’t have fun getting their picture taken at Mrs Baird’s on the day Richard Rankin was filming the scenes where he came to Inverness to look for Brianna. Warm gloves and puffy jackets were a must.

We can be tolerant and compassionate. Thoughtful rather than emotional. Understanding rather than abusive. We can be a community that seeks to support each other, and if we want to offer criticism, we can make it constructive and respectful criticism.

The ultimate question we can ask ourselves: Would we say what we want to say if the person was standing right in front of us? Anger breeds anger, compassion breeds compassion. It’s us, not them.

Would you like to make a point about online interactions? Maybe you have suggestions for how the bar could be raised? Let’s share our ideas here. 

 

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Outlander Retrospective – Final Look Behind the Scenes on Season 4

(First posted at outlandercast January 2019)
It’s over for another year! (sob!) The now famous #Droughtlander is upon us, but not until numerous people, including me, have their final two cents‘ worth on OutlanderSeason 4. This week’s post will be a mash-up of sorts as there were no new locations in “Man of Worth.” I have a few ‘orphans’ left, behind-the-scenes pictures that didn’t really fit anywhere. I wasn’t able to place them, so they were either scenes that were cut or scenes that were never made.

Who knows? It’s interesting when you hear the actors and producers talk, and when you see the “deleted scenes” that start to appear, just how much stuff never makes it to in the final show.

First up for me was this little structure, which we saw when we visited Cumbernauld Glen in mid-January 2018. This was the setting for the little cabin that we now know was the Muellers’ cabin. Being a book reader, of course I imagined the story line of the time when Jamie hurts his back, is immobilised with pain, and Claire ventures out into a snowstorm to rescue him (reckless woman!). She constructs a little shelter over the top of him with hemlock boughs to keep them from freezing, and luckily Jamie discovers that he is able to attempt certain rhythmic warming activities.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, Cumbernauld Glen

Alas, that was one of the gorgeous, sexy, romantic, funny and adventurous scenes they chose not to show. But, maybe they were thinking about it? Or maybe they shot it and discarded it. We may never know. Maybe it will come up in deleted scenes? It also made me realise that we never saw Fraser’s Ridge in the snow. Perhaps next season?

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, Cumbernauld Glen, Fraser's Ridge

In January 2018, I was in Falkland to watch the Inverness scenes where Roger searches for Brianna and discovers she has gone through the stones. Later that same day there was some Outlander action at a big barn near Falkland. I met intrepid fan Tanya Geekie and her daughter Caitlyn there, and they waited patiently (I wasn’t so patient) for Sam Heughan and Caitriona Balfe to appear after the filming.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, Falkland

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, Falkland

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, Falkland, outlander cast

Tanya and I have waited the whole series to figure out what was going on there that day, where we could fit the pictures into my posts. But we never figured it out. It was absolutely freezing cold and Caitriona made a funny tweet at the time.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, Falkland

I asked Sam about it on his #asksam twitter Q & A after the finale but didn’t get a reply. Again, a mystery. But Tanya and Caitlyn were happy to meet up with the stars, who were friendly and gracious as usual.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, Falkland, outlander cast

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, Falkland, sam heughan

Tanya was also on the spot at another location down a country lane in Crieff. Her eagle eyes spotted a notice about a car park closure and she took a chance and found the locality. Again, Sam and Caitriona generously hopped out of their cars for a meet and greet, some selfies and some autographs. Tanya is hoping for a hat trick of pics with Sam Heughan during Season 5 filming.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, sam heughan

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, sam heughan

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, sam heughan

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, caitriona balfe

Looking back over my Outlandish year a few things that stand out. The lovely fans I met and friends I made — Outlander seems to have that effect on people. Even though, in the end, it is just books and a TV show people seem to rally round and have a sense of camaraderie in their response to this wonderful saga that touches us all in different ways.

My dear friend Morag and her husband Sandy, gave me the royal treatment and took me to so many Outlander locations, traipsing around the countryside with me. We went to World Outlander day in Falkland pretty soon after I arrived in Scotland.

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Gary Dempster was introduced to me by fellow Outlander Cast writer Anne Gavin. Gary accompanied me on Outlander expeditions in all weathers and took the most amazing pictures. We landed in Dunure for a reccie ahead of the filming.

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Crafty Christine Lewis who I first met at the Outlander convention in Blackpool England and who now helps me so much from across the seas. A relentless researcher with her finger on the Outlander pulse, she has sent me (us) on more than one wild goose chase but they’ve always been fun.

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Linda Reynolds and her husband Brian were such a fun couple of Outlander fans who I met a few times and still keep in touch with as they gear up to follow the Outlander trail in 2019. Linda got up close and personal with Sam Heughan in Glasgow, a dream come true.

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I don’t have photos of my other contributors but they are:

Matthew Fairley who I met at Cumbernauld Glen and who shared so many great pics with me.

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Kevin who was a relentless Outlander tracker and shared some great pics and videos with me.

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Papa Bob, a pseudonym, but she knows who she is (wink!). Papa Bob was the first to see Murtagh on location … scoop!!

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and Susanne Evans who sent me those great pics of the Mohawk Village.

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Snaphammy photography shared some great close-up pics of Fraser’s Ridge and the Highland gathering at Pollok Park.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes filming, filming outlander, pollack park, scotland parks

Nicole Boyle was on the spot when River Run was under construction.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes filming, filming outlander, River Run

Carol Murray happened to be passing by when the riverboat scenes were being shot in the car park at the Outlander studios in Cumbernauld.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes filming, filming outlander, Cumbernauld

Kevin Ashe noticed some strange goings-on at his local park in Polmont and got some great pics of the preparation and the filming of the graveyard scene … and a night time sighting of Rollo on set.outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes filming, filming outlander, Rollo

Cynthia Shultz and Annika Neumann were there at Newhailes House when the scenes with Sam Heughan and Tim Downie aka Governor Tryon were being filmed.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes filming, filming outlander, Newhailes House, Sam Heughan

Chloe Christine Toye was at Cumbernauld Glen and captured a great picture showing the detail of John Bell’s costume while he was coming up for a break.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes filming, filming outlander, John Hunter Bell, young Ian

For their wonderful images of the filming at Culross, Julie Windmill, Lee Jenkins and local photographer Graham Harris Graham. When visiting Culross you can call in at Grahams studio where you’ll see many images with an Outlander twist.

Fiona Hendrie was on the spot when the Quincy Myers camp was being set up at Beecraigs Country Park, and we had a habit of bumping into each other at several filming locations – a keen fan there!

And finally, the four women who can give you your own Outlander experiences when you visit Scotland. Each of them shared really great pictures of Outlander filming with me.

Sam Thomson and her husband run Edinburgh Tour Guides and they provide all sorts of great Outlander-related tours.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, edinburgh tour guides, richard rankin, roger

Angela Gourlay runs the delightful B & B Parkhead House inside the grounds of Hopetoun House. She was there when the grounds of Abercorn Church were being prepared for the scene where Bree kneels at Frank’s grave.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, brianna in outlander

Pauline Duncan runs the Northlands B&B at Pitlochry, the ideal place to stay when you’re checking out Faskally Forest, the location of the Mohawk Village.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, faskally forest, mohawk village

And last but not least Mary Mackay of River Edge Lodges near Perth, where you may be able to stay in the lodge where Bree and Roger didn’t have sex.

outlander season 4 behind-the-scenes photos, filming outlander, roger and brianna

And thanks to you for reading throughout the series. Hope you enjoyed reading as much as I enjoyed going to the locations, meeting all those lovely people and putting together the posts.

What was your favourite location in Outlander Season 4? 

 

 

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Outlander Retrospective – Behind the Scenes in Episode 412, ‘Providence’

(First posted at outlandercast in January 2019)
I reckon that when Claire gets her eyes and surgeon’s hands on Roger next week her diagnosis will be fractured clavicle. #PoorRoger. He is having a VERY difficult time and we are all hoping for a miracle next week.

In this week’s emotion-packed Outlander episode 412 we saw four locations: River Run, Wilmington, the Mohawk Village and the forest scenes with Claire, Jamie and Ian on their quest to locate Roger. With my #BTS radar and enjoyment of all things that go on in the background to make the show, I was thrilled to see Barry Waldo’s posts on Instagram this week. He showed us the inside set that Gary Steele and his team created for River Run. Who knew that the verandah was created on a stage complete with a painted backdrop of the view out to the river. Wow! Couldn’t resist adding those here as they are so interesting.

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The scenes with our intrepid threesome searching for Roger — and that heart-rending voiceover by Jamie — were filmed at Cumbernauld Glen on that sunny day when we watched the filming last May. Matthew Fairley spotted the three weaving in and out of the trees on horseback.

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And for Wilmington, here are a few more shots from Matthew from his recent visit to the site, as well as a couple of aerial shots of the “town.”

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, town of wilmington in Outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, town of wilmington in Outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, town of wilmington in Outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, town of wilmington in Outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, town of wilmington in Outlander

I saw on social media that someone has dubbed Fergus and Marsali, the 18thcentury Bonnie and Clyde! Hope we’ll see them arrive to settle at the Ridge before the show ends.

The most exciting and traumatic scenes this week were in the Mohawk Village, Shadow Lake. Back to Faskally Woodnear Pitlochry in the Scottish Highlands.

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A most magnificent part of the world. The day we were there, a beautiful summer’s day in June, we could not see much, as filming was underway. We had a lovely walk in the forest and by the water’s edge, though.

 

When we walked down to get a view up towards the village over the loch, we met some folk who were staying in a holiday park at the edge of the loch. One bloke told us a story of the night before when he had gone to the local pub and ”it was full of Indians,” he said! He and his friends had no idea what to make of that.

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behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

On the days before we were there, Matthew, Susanne Evans and Pauline Duncan (of Northlands B and B in Pitlochry) each went and got some amazing close-ups of the village dwellings, including fabulous details of the interiors, with the sleeping platforms and all the minutia of village life. Skins, dear carcass, fish drying — what a set up! It was like actually traveling to another world and time.

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

behind the scenes filming outlander season 4, outlander episode 412 providence, faskally wood, filming the mohawk village in outlander

Have these guys thought of a theme park? Surely “Outlander World” would draw some big crowds?

At this point who can predict what will happen in the last episode? Even for book readers its tricky to know how they are going to close the show. We’ve heard it will be some kind of cliff hanger so we will wait patiently for “Man of Worth.” See you then.

Thanks to my contributors this week: Matthew Fairley, Susanne Evans and Pauline Duncan.

Andrée has been an Outlander fan since December 2015 when she took a friend’s advice to watch this “great show.” Well that was great advice and since then she has travelled from Australia to Scotland twice and spent lots of time checking out the Outlander action. You can follow Andrée on twitter @andree.poppleton and Instagram @AndreePoppleton for more Outlander action.

 

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